The prosecutor who won convictions in the Oxford High School shooting trials wants to extend that work to all of Michigan.
Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald announced this week that she’s launching a bid to become Michigan’s next attorney general. Other candidates who have entered the race include Democrats Washtenaw County Prosecutor Eli Savit and former federal prosecutor Mark Totten, as well as Republican attorney Kevin Kijewski.
It’s an open race for the seat, as the state government’s current top lawyer — Attorney General Dana Nessel — is term-limited.
McDonald, a Democrat, told WDET the issues facing Michigan and the nation are drawing her to serve at the state level.
The following interview has been edited for clarity and length.
Karen McDonald, Oakland County prosecutor: I think the answer to that is the same answer I’d give when I started my first job as an adult — as a public school teacher — really wanting to be in a place where I had the most impact and the most opportunity to do good where it was needed most. I went on to law school, was a lawyer in private practice, became a judge in the family court and then ran for prosecutor in 2020. And I think right now, given the threats that we’re facing in the state, the attorney general is more important than ever.
Quinn Klinefelter, WDET News: What kind of threats are there that you think you would have to face or take on if, in fact, you were elected attorney general?
KM: We’re facing threats to our rule of law, to the general well-being and safety of the people in the state of Michigan. The U.S. Constitution and the rights that it gives us are being dismantled, and I think the attorney general is the one that stands up for the people of this state. I also think that the role of the attorney general as the “People’s Lawyer” is something that I’ve been doing for over a decade working to serve my community, my county. Oakland County is the second largest county in the state. And that’s what I get up every day and I do.
QK: Obviously your prosecution of the Oxford High School shooter and securing the convictions of his parents on involuntary manslaughter charges put a spotlight on your work. Are there lessons that you see from those cases that would inform you if, in fact, you were elected attorney general?
KM: My hope is that it put a spotlight on gun violence and how critical it is that we address it like a public health crisis. It’s the number one cause of death for children in this country. Prosecuting a few individuals, or anyone for that matter, is not going to fix that. We have to treat it like a public health crisis.
QK: Staying with the Oxford shooting, the defense attorney for the shooter’s mother, Jennifer Crumbley, has brought up issues about a proffer agreement that was made with some of the Oxford employees to testify. The judge in the trial indicated that she had some concerns about the deal. Do you have any concerns that now your opponents in this attorney general race could somehow try to use that to tarnish your efforts in the Crumbley case?
KM: It doesn’t surprise me. The lawyer you’re speaking of has been sanctioned and fined by that same judge. And the motion for a new trial was denied. I’m focused on the victims in that case and holding the people accountable that are responsible for those kids who were killed and injured on that day (in 2021) and the hundreds of others that were traumatized. I think the focus now has to be on the victims, the families and this community. That is why I’ve dedicated so much of my time as the prosecutor, and will continue that as the attorney general, to address gun violence. Not just from the moment somebody picks up a gun, but way up-stream — what we can and should be doing to educate the public about how we can prevent that from happening.
QK: Current Attorney General Dana Nessel has done some of that in certain aspects. But she’s also filed or joined many lawsuits that challenge the Trump administration, from threats to withholding federal funding for emergency services and limiting birthright citizenship to firing federal workers or adding restrictions on voting. Are there areas you see that as attorney general, you believe you should either continue or would institute challenges to the Trump administration?
KM: I think that’s the responsibility and duty of the attorney general. The stakes could not be higher. We’re talking about a complete disregard for the rule of law. I’m a lawyer, I’m a former judge, I’m the prosecutor. The Constitution is our guide. Due process is afforded for all of us. We can’t just ignore that when we want to. With regard to funding, these are critical issues. The new bill that’s being proposed in Congress would make it that 700,000 people in Michigan lose access to Medicaid. We’ve had the administration take away funds for substance abuse and mental health issues at the precise time where our kids, in particular, needed it the most. This just doesn’t make any sense. It doesn’t make us safer. And I think the attorney general’s job is to look out for the people of the state of Michigan. So when appropriate, absolutely those lawsuits should be vigorously litigated, because that is the attorney general’s job. But it’s also the attorney general’s job to make sure that we are focusing on things that have the most impact. I’ve always been dedicated to public service and where I could do the most good. And that is protecting the rule of all law, protecting public safety and advocating for vulnerable people.
QK: It’s a little bit unfair at this point, because only a few candidates have declared their run for attorney general yet. But what would you tell a voter that you think sets you apart from the others that possibly could try to run for the office or that are now?
KM: While I’ve spent most of my adult life in southeast Michigan and Oakland County, I grew up in the middle of the state in a really small town that was a farming community. My dad was a construction worker and neither of my parents went to college. They were able to work hard and provide a nice life for us, not a fancy one, but a good one. And I am only here because I had the advantage of student loans. Over half of the assistant prosecutors in my office rely on the loan repayment programs because they’ve dedicated a significant period of their life to public service. These aren’t things that should be taken away. These are things that we should be saying, “This works.” We need to fight to make sure that we don’t lose it.
I’m also a mom. And I, like all the other parents, want to make sure that my kids have a safe, thriving state to live in. Look, it’s 2025, we should not have parents worried that their kids might be the victims of gun violence when they drop them off at school. I am going to fight no matter where I am to make sure that we do everything we possibly can to eliminate and prevent gun violence.
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