Democratic Congressman Shri Thanedar is running for re-election. He represents the 13^th Congressional District which encompasses much of Detroit as well as Wyandotte, Allen Park, Taylor and Romulus.

Thanedar has long been the target of criticism for being a newcomer to the city of Detroit, and for being mostly self-financed. He’s independently wealthy, and the 71-year-old has been able to easily out-spend his competitors.

This year, Thanedar is facing a difficult primary opponent, State Representative Donavan McKinney. The progressive Democrat has already been endorsed by Black leaders in Detroit and other lefties like Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib and U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders.

The seat is safely controlled by Democrats, so whoever wins the primary will be the next Representative.

Recently, Thanedar sat down with WDET’s Russ McNamara and discussed many topics that could separate he and McKinney in the primary.

The following interview has been edited for clarity.

Russ McNamara, WDET: You’ve been running ads critical of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

U.S. Rep. Shri Thanedar: What happened in Minnesota in killing of two American citizens Renee Good, a mother of three, was murdered on the streets of America. Alex Pretti an ICU nurse at [the] VA was murdered. This agency is out of control. They are going to Home Depots, daycare centers, schools to round up people that look different.

This is not a way to run our immigration enforcement, so I, last year, introduced a bill in Congress to end immunity for ICE agents, because ICE agents cannot stand behind this immunity to go do atrocities on our streets and create fear among our communities and community members. People, even U.S. citizens, are afraid to come out of their homes being afraid.

ICE agents talking to people. ‘Hey, you speak with an accent, you look different. You You must not be an US citizen.’ … They are entering homes without a judicial warrant. So I introduced a bill last year, anticipating all of this, to eliminate the immunity for these ICE agents. And this year, I am the first member of Congress to introduce a bill in Congress to abolish ice.

RM: It should be noted that because of Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson, this bill is unlikely to go anywhere at all. Have you had any person experience with racial profiling?

ST: Yeah, you know, at times. I have seen the type of questioning that I get, or sometime, I do get singled out a lot more for interrogation and questioning. But I am not so sure it is how different that is compared to their interrogation of other people.

Medicare for All

RM: What is your plan to fix health care?

ST: Well look, with a nation as rich as ours, it is unfortunate that United States does not cover health care for all of its citizens. We are the only developed nation that does not cover health care for its citizens. I am a big proponent of Medicare for All.

I would like to see a single-payer healthcare system that covers healthcare, because I believe healthcare is a fundamental human rights issue. No one, no family, should have to make those difficult decisions, whether to buy medicine, go to a doctor or buy food to feed the family.

So we saw the condition of healthcare in Detroit, especially in the Covid times. We had disproportionate number of deaths during Covid, because Detroit does not have the health care.

So I think given the poverty in my district—26% of the people in my district are at or below poverty—they are struggling as such, and cannot afford health care. Now, the loss of subsidies, the Obamacare subsidies, has doubled and tripled insurance premiums for independent workers, small business owners, and that’s causing a lot of hardship for people as well. So a single payer healthcare like a Medicare for All is the ultimate solution.

We will have a better leverage to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies to ensure because prescription medication is most expensive in United States compared to everywhere else in the world and whatever. Under Biden, we dropped the insulin rates to $35 a month. There is some progress made under the current administration, but it is too little and does not cover a lot of the life saving medications. So we need to have a comprehensive health care reform, such as a single-payer health care system.

Wealth gap

RM: You mentioned that 26% of your district lives in poverty. It has one of the lowest median household income rates in the country. You are independently wealthy. I’m sure you’ve seen the how the wealth gap has increased. What is your plan to address that wealth gap?

ST: We need to create skills jobs. We need to raise the minimum wage to a living wage. The current federal minimum wage is nowhere close to a living wage, so it is important that we raise the minimum wage, but it’s very, very important that we give people the skill set that they need.

Look, I wasn’t born wealthy. I grew up in India. My father lost his job when I was 16 years old, and while going to college, I worked as a janitor, and made a little bit of money. I didn’t get the living wages, I didn’t get the benefits, but I worked as a janitor. I worked in restaurants, serving tables. That’s how I got a little supplemental income that I gave it to my mom so she could put food on the table, you know. So I grew up in dire poverty, like no running water in my home. I had to go with my mother a block away to get drinking water for the whole day.

So I have gone through dire poverty. There are times where I’ve gone to bed hungry, but I got education. I came to the United States. I got education. After that, I got a job, and then I started a business, and that business became very successful, and that’s how I made my money.

Then I realized I achieved my American dream and I need to go help others, and that’s why I sold my business, took some of that money, gave it to all of my employees, because they helped me make that business successful.

So to close the wealth gap, we need to promote entrepreneurship. We need to give the skillsets people need.

Education costs way too much. No one should be graduating from college with 50,000, $70,000 loan. So we need to make education affordable, because like in my case, it was the education that helped me overcome poverty to be able to succeed and achieve my American dream. Every child, no matter what zip code he or she lives, every child, no matter what financial background the child comes from, must get good quality education.

Billionaires

RM: Should billionaires exist?

ST: I don’t think so. Some 80 or so billionaires have so much wealth compared to rest of the people, and that doesn’t seem like a fair system. We have billionaires who have a different set of rules that they live under. So no, I don’t think billionaires should exist, because often they exist because of because of their unethical practices, because of their monopolies. And we need to break those monopolies. We need to have a level playing field.

RM: Where has the Democratic Party gone wrong? What can they do to fix the disconnect between the base and party leadership?

ST: I can tell you just what I am doing as a Democrat, and my focus has been to fight for democracy. When this administration does illegal things when they do activities that are against the Constitution. I have stood up. I was the first member of Congress to bring articles of impeachment against this president, outlining some of the things that he did that were unconstitutional.

RM: But that wasn’t well-received by Democratic House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries though.

ST: It wasn’t. I don’t work for Hakeem Jeffries. I don’t work for Donald Trump. I work for my constituents. And my constituents felt that what Mr. Trump is doing in terms of the Trump meme coin or his families making these business deals with Middle East countries this Trump and his family have amassed $1.5 billion personal wealth using their office.

I’m doing what my constituents want me to do. Because, look, I have had more town halls than anybody else that I know of. I must have had almost 18 or so in person town halls. I have had tele-town halls where 18,000 people join in—I do this almost every month. So I am very much in touch with my constituents.

I hear them, and I’m doing what my constituents want, which is to fight with this administration and resist this administration when they do when they take law in their own hands, when they do unconstitutional activities.

Campaign finance

RM: How has it been raising money this time around? You’ve put a lot of your own money into your campaigns, but you’ve also taken a lot of money from AIPAC.

ST: I don’t do much fundraising. You know, most members of Congress spend anywhere from 20-60 hours per week on fundraising. I have put my own money when I ran for governor, I put my own money when I ran for Congress. I put my own money when I ran for state rep, so I don’t depend on anybody else’s money.

RM: But are you taking money from a PAC or one of their offshoots in this particular election cycle?

ST: I will take money from anybody who wants to support my campaign, but that is a insignificant part of my total funds that I use. 90, 95% 99% of the money is coming from my own pocket. So I am not beholden to any donor. I am not beholden to any one contributing to my campaign. I spend my own money.

War in Gaza

RM: So a lot of what went wrong for Democrats in 2024 was the failure to acknowledge people who were unhappy with Israel’s war and attacks on Palestinians in Gaza—

ST: I think it was the economy. I think Trump made a case that he alone can fix the economy. He identified the affordability struggles average Americans have, and he talked about the rising prices—and he said, Mr. Trump said, he alone can fix the economy. And people believed it. People believed that he can fix the economy, and I think that was the number one reason why Mr. Trump got elected.

RM: But I do want to suss out your personal feelings on Israel’s attacks on Palestinians in Gaza. Scholars and vocal people on the left have characterized those attacks as genocide. Would you agree with that assessment?

ST: I feel that we need to fight terrorism all across the world. Terrorism needs to be fought. What happened? We suffered at the hands of terrorists on 9/11 and we just need to continue to fight and we need to fight terrorism anywhere, whether it’s Middle East, whether it is in any other part of the world.

War in Iran

RM: Iran has been a large state sponsor of terrorism across the globe. Are you in support of this current military action with Iran?

ST: I am totally opposed to the current war that Trump has started in Iran. It was ill conceived. I have seen no imminent threat to the United States from Iran. Iran has the capability of these missiles and drones all along. So there is nothing new that happened, that needed United States to go spend billions of dollars on this war and get our men and women—hard working men and women from the service—to be in harm’s way. So this was an ill conceived plan of war done by one man, and he did not consult Congress.

Congress, by constitution, is the sole authority in terms of declaring war, and this President started this illegal war for reasons known only to him, because every member of his cabinet has given us different reasons why they started the war. It seems like… none of them have one cohesive reason why they started this war.

Trump has said different things. Secretary Rubio has said different things. Vice President, J, D, Vance said some other things. So it almost like they’re making up reasons why they went into war, and I have my own thinking why they went into the war.

I feel that Trump needs every distraction he can get to distract Americans from the rising affordability crisis. Trump needs a distraction because people are mad at the operation of Department of Homeland Security and ICE particularly. And people are upset with the Epstein files and all of the attorney general who, as you know, has attempted to cover up. This is the largest cover up since Watergate, and it is something that Trump needed a distraction for, and they went into this Iran war without full preparation.

Transgender rights

RM: What do you plan to do to protect the rights of transgender people since Republicans continue to attack their existence?

ST: This cultural war by Republicans is another way of distraction from the current affordability crisis. The culture war that they have done to please their own base is unnecessary.

This is not the issue we need to feed people. They’re cutting Medicaid through the trillion dollars of cuts in health care. They are cutting snap the supplemental food benefits to the tune of $300 billion taking away, you know, Supplemental Nutritional food away from hungry and poor, and we’re talking about these culture wars. That is quite a distraction. We need to really focus on what really matters, and that’s feeding the hungry. That’s getting good health care for all, focusing on skills and closing the wealth gap.

Federal immigration agents have been involved in at least 30 shootings since President Trump returned to office — eight of them fatal. In almost every case, the administration declared the agents’ actions justified before any investigation was complete.

Two of those killings happened in Minneapolis within three weeks of each other: Renee Good on January 7 and Alex Pretti on January 24. Both were U.S. citizens, age 37, and in both cases, masked federal officers opened fire, and the Trump administration’s initial accounts were later contradicted by video evidence.

Their deaths spurred protests across the country and accelerated a growing push by local and state governments to impose limits on federal immigration agents.

Local Pushback

In Detroit, City Council member Mary Waters has introduced the Alex Pretti Detroit No Masks Ordinance, which would prohibit any law enforcement officer — local, state, or federal — from concealing their face while performing their duties in the city. The proposal has been referred to committee but has not yet received a vote.

At the state level, the Michigan Senate held hearings last month on a package of bills aimed at how federal immigration enforcement operates in the state. They would ban law enforcement masks, bar ICE from operating in schools, hospitals, and houses of worship, and prevent state agencies from sharing data with federal immigration authorities.

Former chief warns about anonymity in law enforcement

Former Detroit Police Chief Isaiah “Ike” McKinnon was among those who testified in support of the bills.

McKinnon joined the Detroit Police Department in 1965. Two years later, during the 1967 Detroit uprising, fellow white officers pulled him over while he was in full uniform, put a gun to his head, and shot at him. During that same period, officers across the department were removing their badges to avoid being identified. McKinnon survived — and stayed on the force. In 1993, Mayor Dennis Archer appointed him Detroit’s second Black police chief. Over five years, he overhauled the department’s approach to community trust.

Now 82, McKinnon told Michigan senators he sees the same pattern repeating: officers who conceal their identities operate without accountability.

He spoke with The Metro’s Robyn Vincent about how local police should respond to this moment.

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